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In this episode, we chat with Luis Villa, co-founder of Tidelift, about everything from supporting open source maintainers to coding with AI. Luis, a former programmer turned attorney, shares stories from his early days of discovering Linux, to his contributions to various projects and organizations including Mozilla and Wikipedia. We discussed the critical importance of open source software, the challenges faced by maintainers, including burnout, and how Tidelift works toward compensating maintainers. We also explore broader themes about the sustainability of open source projects, the impact of AI on code generation and legal concerns, and the need for a more structured and community-driven approach to long-term project maintenance.   00:00 Introduction03:20 Challenges in Open Source Sustainability07:43 Tidelift's Role in Supporting Maintainers14:18 The Future of Open Source and AI32:44 Optimism and Human Element in Open Source35:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts   Guest: Luis Villa is co-founder and general counsel at Tidelift. Previously he was a top open source lawyer advising clients, from Fortune 50 companies to leading startups, on product development, open source licensing, and other matters.  Luis is also an experienced open source community leader with organizations like the Wikimedia Foundation, where he served as deputy general counsel and then led the Foundation’s community engagement team. Before the Wikimedia Foundation, he was with Greenberg Traurig, where he counseled clients such as Google on open source licenses and technology transactions, and Mozilla, where he led the revision of the Mozilla Public License.  He has served on the boards at the Open Source Initiative and the GNOME Foundation, and been an invited expert on the Patents and Standards Interest Group of the World Wide Web Consortium and the Legal Working Group of OpenStreetMap.  Recent speaking engagements include RedMonk’s Monki Gras developer event, FOSDEM, and as a faculty member at the Practicing Law Institute’s Open Source Software programs. Luis holds a JD from Columbia Law School and studied political science and computer science at Duke University.  

Ben talks about his book, "Program Management for Open Source Projects", intentional program management and AI's impact on inclusivity in open source.

Kris, Angelica & Johnny react to the recently announced Go team changes, discuss the finding that 80% of developers surveyed by Stack Overflow are unhappy & disagree about the concept of tech debt (but agree that something's gotta give).

What's in the SOSS? features the sharpest minds in security as they dig into the challenges and opportunities that create a recipe for success in making software more secure. Get a taste of all the ingredients that make up secure open source ...

Database aficionado, Ben Johnson, joins Jerod to answer the age ol' question: which database should you use? Answering that isn't always easy, which means it's time to play the "It Depends" jingle & weigh (some of) the options.

Tim Banks joins Justin and Autumn — there's nothing quite like being punched in the face by Zookeeper or being taken down by a "hot" shard.

For Patreon, Swag, past episodes, and more, visit 🔗 https://cupogo.dev/!🏛️ Go 1.22.6 & 1.21.13 released  🕵️ CVE-2024-24790 explained (and scored on Synk)🧪 Likely accept: add Context method to testing.T🧑‍💻 StackOverflow 2024 developer survey results

We're talking OpenAPI this week! Kris & Johnny are joined by Jamie Tanna, one of the maintainers of oapi-codegen, to discuss OpenAPI, API design philosophies, versioning, and open source maintenance and sustainability. In addition to the usual laughs and unpopular opinions, this week's episode includes a Changelog++ se...

Bailey Hayes & Taylor Thomas from Cosmonic join the show for a look at WebAssembly Standard Interfaces (WASI) and trade-offs for portable interfaces.

and talk about a presentation Josh recently gave that was supposed to be about how open source works. The talk was the wrong topic for a security crowd, but there's a lot of interesting details in the questions and comments that emerged. It's clear a lot of security people don't really care about the fine details about what open source is, their primary goal is to help keep development secure. Show Notes

Adam Jacob goes solo with Adam for an epic pod into his journey to get to System Initiative. From SysAdmin at 8 years old, to discovering Linux and working for Mom-and-pop ISPs, to open source changing his life and starting Opscode and building Chef. Buckle up. This is a different flavor of "Friends" for you. Enjoy.

Node.js makes big TypeScript & SQLite moves, ECMAScript 2024 adds some niceties to the language (but not the ones you're probably excited for) & we review the State of React 2023 results. Emergency?! Nick!

For Patreon, Swag, past episodes, and more, visit https://cupogo.dev/!🫡 Leadership Transition in the Go Project🧑‍⚖️ ProposalsAccepted: Adding Text() to the crypto/rand libraryProposal (likely decline): add crypt(3) compatibility in the stdlibActive Proposal: Telemetry in Delve🤝 CommunityGopherCon...

Glauber Costa discusses Terso, a distributed SQLite platform getting attention for its managed service and LibSQL fork enabling new architectures.

📝 Go 1.23: Interactive release notesNew proposalsruntime: add AddCleanup and deprecate SetFinalizer👉 weak: new package providing weak pointers💪 Bufstream enters public betaLightning RoundProfiling in Go: A Practical Guide by Noam YadgarCogent Core initial releaseNew RansomHub Ransomware...

Joseph Jacks (JJ) is back! We discuss the latest in COSS funding, his thesis for investing in commercial open source companies, the various rug pulls happening out there in open source licensing, and Zuck/Meta's generosity releasing Llama 3.1 as "open source."

Adam Lisagor (Sandwich Video founder) takes us behind the Sandwich to share his insights into the importance of storytelling in the tech industry, the value of helping Founders communicate their stories effectively, the details behind his new AI company, and the apps he's making for Apple Vision Pro at Sandwich Vision.

This week on The Business of Open Source, I talked with Tom Wilkie, CTO at Grafana Labs. We talked about how he had a 10-month run building a startup before ultimately joining Grafana in an acquisition — why he thought that was the right move at the time and how it’s developed since then. But Tom...

This week on The Business of Open Source I spoke with Mike Milinkovich, executive director at the Eclipse Foundation. We had a wide-ranging conversation about the role of open source foundations in the open source ecosystem, especially as related to open source businesses. The existence of open...

and talk about a story talking about the "graying" of open source. There doesn't seem to be many young people working on open source, but we don't really know why that is. There are many thoughts, but a better question is why should anyone get involved in open source anymore? The world has changed quite a lot since open source was created. Show Notes OSPOs for Good 2024

Michael Gat joins us for a look back on mainframes & why sometimes deploying on a Friday IS the right thing to do.

We check out the upcoming 1.23 release for new language features and improvements, including iterator functions and supporting packages.

Jesús Espino from Mattermost tells Natalie all about (the final four of) his 10 “aha moments” he had reading the Go source code. Don't miss Part 1!

Robert Ross joins us in CrowdStrike's wake to dissect the largest outage in the history of information technology... and what it means for the future of the (software) world.

Nick Janetakis is back and this time we're talking about TUIs (text-based user interfaces) — some we've tried and some we plan to try. All are collected from Justin Garrison's Awesome TUIs repo on GitHub. This episode is "AI free."

and talk about two documents from the US government that discuss open source in very different ways. The CISA document lays out a way to measure open source, but we take issue with the idea of trying to measure which open source projects are "good". The Whitehouse on the other hand takes an approach that is very open source, get involved. Trying to measure open source isn't producing anything actionable, but getting involved is very actionable, and very much how open source works. Show Notes

Jesús Espino from Mattermost tells Natalie all about (the first six of) his 10 "aha moments" he had reading the Go source code. Part 2 (with the rest of his aha moments) coming soon!

News this week:🆕 rc2 is out Google Groups noticeThe actual Merge List🇰🇪 GopherCon Africa Oct 18-19Does Go benefit more from copilot than other languages?Range-over-func demystifiedZach Musgrave's post from dolthub; Go range iterators demystifiedJohn's take on it; First impressions of Go 1.23's...

Benn Stancil's weekly Substack on data and technology provides a fascinating perspective on the modern data stack & the industry building it. On this episode, Benn joins Jerod to dissect a few of his essays, discuss opportunities he sees during this slowdown & explain why he thinks maybe we should disband the analytics...

This week on The Business of Open Source, I spoke with Vinoth Chandar, the founder and CEO of Onehouse and the creator of Apache Hudi. We took a pretty deep dive into the relationship between Onehouse and Hudi, a topic that for me is at the heart of building a company on top of an open source...

Back in May 2014 Joyent accidentally rebooted an entire datacenter (not just the handful of node as intended!). That incident--traumatic was it was--informed many aspects of the Oxide product. Bryan and Adam were joined by members of that former Joyent team to discuss, commiserate,...

Tracy & Ashley discuss open source funding issues, misaligned incentives, regulatory awareness, and advocacy for contributors.

<p>Actor, writer, and director Rashida Jones feels blank about being Conan O’Brien’s friend.</p><p>Rashida sits down with Conan to talk about tracing her family genealogy, the unanticipated success of Parks and Recreation, and confronting grief in her new Apple TV+ series Sunny. Plus, Conan considers taking his act to Vegas.</p><p>For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit <a href="http://TeamCoco.com">TeamCoco.com</a>.</p><p>Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847.</p>

Brian Fox is Co-founder and Chief Technology Officer at Sonatype, bringing over 28 years of hands-on experience driving software development for organizations of all sizes, from startups to large enterprises.&nbsp;A recognized figure in the Apache...

and talk about a pretty big bug found in CocoPods ownership. We also touch on a paper that discusses the technical debt that open source should have. We discuss what the long term sustainability of open source. There aren't any good solutions for open source today, but talking about these problems is important, we have to start to understand what's going on before we can plausibly discuss solutions. If you're an open source project that needs to put things on pause, or even walk way, that's OK. Show Notes

Shawn “swyx” Wang is back to talk with us about the state of DevRel according to ZIRP (the Zero Interest Rate Phenomenon), the data that backs up the rise and fall of job openings, whether or not DevRel is dead or dying, speculation of the near-term arrival of AGI, AI Engineering as the last job standing, the innovatio...

Git was designed to be distributed but there is a lot of gravity around GitHub. What does the model look like for a business that encourages you to run your own git server and what does the backend for gitea.com look like?

Conferences & CFPs🇮🇱 GopherCon Israel, Sept 9 @ Tel AvivCFP open until Jul 15🇦🇺 GopherCon AU, NoCFP open until Sept 15🇮🇳 GopherCon India, Dec 1 @ Jaipur🇩🇪 Fyne Conf, Sept 20 @ BerlinCFP open until Aug 16🇸🇬 GopherCon Singapore, October TBDCFP open until Aug 19Go 1.23 draft release notes⏲️ Blog:...

Welcome to Kaizen 15! We go deep on the big Changelog News redesign, give shout outs to folks who’ve helped us along the way &amp;amp; Gerhard takes us on his journey to turn Jerod’s pipe dream into a reality!

Paul Copplestone, CEO of Supabase (the meme-lord himself), joins the show to take us on the journey of Supabase leading Postgres for life, and how it all starts with Postgres as the base-layer substrate for the entire Supabase platform. They’re laser focused on the drive ahead, not the rear-view mirror. Disclosure: Ada...

This week on The Business of Open Source, I spoke with Joe Duffy, co-founder and CEO of Pulumi.We kicked off the conversation by talking about why Pulumi is open source in the first place — a mix of Joe’s long-standing interest in open source and a feeling like a developer tool like Pulumi just...

Join us for an insightful discussion on the intricacies of Developer Relations in the open source world. Our panel of experts will delve into key differences between open and closed source platforms, the unique challenges and opportunities in open source DevRel, and the impact of AI tools on the community. Gain practical insights and hear success stories from industry leaders.

This week on The Business of Open Source, I spoke with Tyler Jewell — for the second time, now. Last time I spoke with Tyler, he was an investor at Dell Technologies Capital, he’s since taken over as CEO of Lightbend. We talked about a lot, but there was a definite theme to our conversation:...

Carol Lee (Clinical Scientist) shares her research on code review anxiety. We dive deep into her recent research paper “Understanding and Effectively Mitigating Code Review Anxiety”. We get into all the nooks and crannies of this topic — common code review myths, strategies for coping, the need for awareness and self-r...

Gareth Greenaway from the Salt project joins us for a trip down memory lane with configuration management and why open source projects have changed over the past decade.