Listened to S1E5: The Grim Barbarity Of Optics and Design (with Jen Tullock) by Player FM 
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<p>Ben and Adam are joined for a recap of Season 1 Episode 5 by the inimitable Jen Tullock, aka Mark's sister "Devon." They consider Devon and Ricken's unlikely courtship, the concept of "birthing retreats," and some far-out fan theories from Reddit about the mysterious baby goats.</p><p>To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a></p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>

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